13 Reasons Why

anon16397839 2017-04-20 08:21:34 UTC #21

Too right but I'm glad he stood up to him in the end

SarahA 2017-04-20 08:22:27 UTC #22

did alex get killed or did he kill himself

tyler gonna shoot up the school lol

anon16397839 2017-04-20 08:22:30 UTC #23

Oh yes. Alex was like the others at first but he seemed to get a conscience.

I wanted Courtney to die but she has no conscience whatsoever she's a stupid bitch

SarahA 2017-04-20 08:25:37 UTC #24

he was probably one of the most realistic characters. everything else seemed a bit fake to me. like hey it's everyone's responsibility including hannah let's just accept that!!

BlackHole 2017-04-20 08:25:38 UTC #25

Pretty sure he would kill himself, in hindsight it makes sense when you see his evolution during the show.

And I totally think that Tyler is planning a school shooting too.

SarahA 2017-04-20 08:26:03 UTC #26

god dammit though. why. why he need to shoot up skool.

BlackHole 2017-04-20 08:27:50 UTC #27

Main theme of the show beside suicide: invisible mental illness. Most school shootings are linked to someone with a mental illness, and Tyler just got past his breaking point. Sort of like "No more, I'll just show them all"

SarahA 2017-04-20 08:49:24 UTC #28

trueee. keen to see if he does shoot it up.

BlackHole 2017-04-20 08:52:57 UTC #29

Not sure if there will be a season 2. Doesn't seem to me like the kind of show that is suited for being continued.

SarahA 2017-04-20 09:01:53 UTC #30

good. doesn't need a season 2. just wanna know if they die because tyler is a serial killer

Chrome 2017-04-20 12:07:48 UTC #31

The way it goes about it (from what I've seen so far) just feels so cliche and over done. Does it happen? Yeah. But the scenarios it presents just feel so unrealistic. Like "Oh, I just got a compromising photo of someone who is in my classroom at this very moment. Better start showing it to everyone in the class." Such situations are virtually never as black and white as shows like these try to make them out to be.

These teenagers pretty much feel like the kids from Elfen Lied if they hadn't died.

lake 2017-04-20 12:23:43 UTC #32

I've read the book. Hannah's actions are irrational because many actions are irrational if you're depressed or suicidal.

Anything that raises awareness about suicide and bullying and all is cool with me, suicide is the leading cause of death for teen males, AFAIK. This show is huge and spreading more of the word.

SarahA 2017-04-20 23:22:01 UTC #33

Reading the book doesn't justify anything. Books can go into so much more detail than a TV series. Books can actually delve into the mind of the individual who is feeling all the emotions so the reader can get a better understanding of them. A lot of the people watching haven't read the book. And all they are seeing is Hannah blaming Justin for a rape that she could've stopped and rejecting help she got.

If we want to raise awareness about suicide, particularly male suicide maybe we should remind feminists what the word "feminism" actually means

lake 2017-04-21 00:01:41 UTC #34

I think you're really overplaying this part.

I don't care about the shortcomings of the show, it's still raising awareness and it doesn't matter to me if that comes from a shitty tv show or not.

Chucklenuts 2017-04-21 01:04:24 UTC #35

the writing always feels at fan-fiction level of quality, but maybe its just not to my tastes

SarahA 2017-04-21 04:51:01 UTC #36

It's raising some awareness. But it's also damaging people too. So I mean...they kinda cancel each other out