Age of Empires (2)

[StrangeSignal]

Do you play as the Spanish often? Are they your favourite civ?

They are my favourite. Villagers build 33% faster, which means that buildings are up when you need them. Blacksmith upgrades don't cost gold, which is cool because you'll be able to deploy more knights. Their team bonus gives you 33% more gold in trade routes, and this is very convenient for team games where trade routes are massive when there is no more gold in the map. If that wasn't enough, the Spanish receive a whole array of gunpowder units, full monastery tech tree, and OP cannon galleons. It's also the only civilization with which you can do a villager rush and get away with it.

Other than the Spanish, my other favourites are the Teutons, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Byzantines, the Huns, the Turks, the Mongols, and the Aztecs. The Britons and the Japanese are a close, but meh. Mayas are cool for their bonuses.

[Axndrvch]

Do you play as the Spanish often? Are they your favourite civ?

They are my favourite. Villagers build 33% faster, which means that buildings are up when you need them. Blacksmith upgrades don't cost gold, which is cool because you'll be able to deploy more knights. Their team bonus gives you 33% more gold in trade routes, and this is very convenient for team games where trade routes are massive when there is no more gold in the map. If that wasn't enough, the Spanish receive a whole array of gunpowder units, full monastery tech tree, and OP cannon galleons. It's also the only civilization with which you can do a villager rush and get away with it.

Other than the Spanish, my other favourites are the Teutons, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Byzantines, the Huns, the Turks, the Mongols, and the Aztecs. The Britons and the Japanese are a close, but meh. Mayas are cool for their bonuses.

Neeerrrddd

Wish I could play you.

In top level competitive play the Spanish dont usually see much action, for some reason. Huns and Aztecs seem to be the most popular.
I tend to pick the more obscure ones... which is why I sometimes end up playing Vikings on land maps
I havent played Spanish in a long time... I actually forgot about their Blacksmith gold bonus! That is actually such a nice bonus to have.

[StrangeSignal]

In top level competitive play the Spanish dont usually see much action, for some reason. Huns and Aztecs seem to be the most popular.

It's because they only shine in team games, where their team bonus is a blessing. Competitive players like to attack in feudal age, and the Spanish cannot build crossbowmen, only archers, which means that their early game rushes are going to suck.

I tend to pick the more obscure ones... which is why I sometimes end up playing Vikings on land maps

Play Turks in Arabia. All an experience.

Vikings aren't actually that bad on land. As long as you can keep your Berserkers alive, their ability to regenerate health helps a lot.

I havent played Spanish in a long time... I actually forgot about their Blacksmith gold bonus! That is actually such a nice bonus to have.

The Spanish in Age of Empires III are better still.

[Axndrvch]

Play Turks in Arabia. All an experience.

Why? Is that especially hard? I'd have thought their free light cavalry upgrades would make them pretty decent on an open map like Arabia.

[StrangeSignal]

Why? Is that especially hard? I'd have thought their free light cavalry upgrades would make them pretty decent on an open map like Arabia.

Yeah... if you have enough food to make a scout rush, that is. Turks don't get pikemen, don't get elite skirmishers, and don't get arbalests. You're gonna be incredibly weak until you can get gunpowder units around, and even then, the lack of pikemen is going to screw you over. They also don't have paladins or onagers. You do have camels to get around the lack of pikemen, but at least in the old game, camels are considered boats by the game, and they take a hell of a lot of damage from any building. They also cost gold, unlike the cheaper pikemen.

[Axndrvch]

Yeah... the problem with the Turks is that basically everything they make needs lots and lots of gold. Their light cavalry bonus appeals to me a lot though... I do love light cavalry.
Do you watch AoE2/3 matches online too? I watch ZeroEmpires, Resonance22 and T90Official. I watch it way more than I play

How long have you played the Age of Empires series for?

& Are you sure you're internet is that bad though? Or are you just making excuses not to fight me as you fear the Persian Monk Rush

[Axndrvch]

If anyone wants a match of AoE2, let me know and we can play today I will most likely be free afternoon/evening. I dont mind what settings.

@Doctapper @Polyester @Cameron @Nationalist_Libertarian @Rinveron @Hedonologist and anyone else who is interested.

[Axndrvch]

This is from a game I played in Hard mode.

Quite a dip in your military before Imperial there. Was it a difficult battle?

[StrangeSignal]

Yeah... the problem with the Turks is that basically everything they make needs lots and lots of gold. Their light cavalry bonus appeals to me a lot though... I do love light cavalry.

I tend to disregard light cavalry unless I'm running out of gold or I'm having a problem with enemy monks. They die with ease, and can be defeated with cheap pikemen infantry.

Do you watch AoE2/3 matches online too? I watch ZeroEmpires, Resonance22 and T90Official. I watch it way more than I play

Sometimes. I watch Spirit of the Law more than any of those.

How long have you played the Age of Empires series for?

Since I was 6, which was 14 years ago.

& Are you sure you're internet is that bad though? Or are you just making excuses not to fight me as you fear the Persian Monk Rush

I am. Besides, I don't have steam and my version isn't a legit one.

Quite a dip in your military before Imperial there. Was it a difficult battle?

Sorta. Was trying to put a forward castle and sent all 22 knights to the rush, but the group of villagers were intercepted and didn't make it, and without backup, most of my knights died to pikemen and the town center. I should have attacked much earlier, when I had the age advantage and 8 knights, but I wanted a forward castle I did get it up later, though.

Yellow was a problem because they had many monks, crossbowmen and pikemen, so I had to wait until late Imperial, when I researched conversion resistance and fielded Elite Conquistadors, Hussars, Heavy Cavalry Archers, and Paladins. Green was obliterated by the forward castle, which had the town center within range, and Yellow's troops were busy with Red (ally), so I changed my turtling strategy to booming and built a very strong army relatively quick.

I love turtling.

[Axndrvch]

Sorta. Was trying to put a forward castle and sent all 22 knights to the rush, but the group of villagers were intercepted and didn't make it, and without backup, most of my knights died to pikemen and the town center. I should have attacked much earlier, when I had the age advantage and 8 knights, but I wanted a forward castle

Haha, harsh
Well done for coming back from that though!

Since I was 6, which was 14 years ago

[SovietMog]

I love turtling

responds by spamming loads of trebouches and using them as artillery

[Axndrvch]

I love turtling

responds by spamming loads of trebouches and using them as artillery

Get the game and come play with me then!
We can talk on Discord at the same time if you want.

[SovietMog]

Get the game and come play with me then! We can talk on Discord at the same time if you want.

If I have the time I will but probably not this week, I've ambushed armies with 10 trebouchets before, it is incredibly effective if you can bottleneck or hold them to a choke point, I used to use horse archers to do this, use their speed to get away from
Slower enemies when the artillery is about to hit, usually ends up killing a sizeable chunk of enemies

[StrangeSignal]

responds by spamming loads of trebouches and using them as artillery

Unless you are Japanese, that's lame. And even then, good luck defending your trebs from Hussars. They are particularly weak against Eagle Warriors, too.

I used to use horse archers to do this, use their speed to get away from

Horse archers are overrated in most situations, IMO. Groups of crossbowmen protected by pikemen can be cheaper and even more effective. It's only good when you are Mongols or Huns.

[StrangeSignal]

This reminds me, @oli @Rinveron you still didn't defend why you think AoE 3 is bad.

I have metropolis of level 50 or higher in all civilizations (and a German metropoli with 126), I'd kick almost everyone's asses.

[Cameron]

I have metropolis of level 50 or higher in all civilizations (and a German metropoli with 126), I'd kick almost everyone's asses.

Online?

[StrangeSignal]

Online?

No, single player only. I have the same problems with AoE III as with AoE II, after all. Connection problems and not a legit copy. At least I had many years of fun.

I'll never forget when I had a death-to-kill ratio of 1-5, having killed more than 500 units in a match of 40 minutes. Deathmatch is very intense.

[Axndrvch]

This reminds me, @oli @Rinveron you still didn't defend why you think AoE 3 is bad.

First the worst.
Second the best.
Thirds the one with the hairy chest!!

[Axndrvch]

If I have the time I will but probably not this week

Whats your Steam name?

[StrangeSignal]

First the worst.

You can't put its age against it. If you play it long enough, you'll find it's very enjoyable and competitive.

My favourite RTS is Empire Earth, though. AoE II has some better things, but it can't compare.