Conservatives, Liberals, Socialists etc: what 'kind' of Conservative, Liberal, Socialist etc are you?

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-10 22:10:37 UTC #21

I'm not Nazi Socioconservative like most Muslims in Europe and America are

Citation needed.

lordtutton 2017-01-10 22:41:19 UTC #22

Aww thanks bud

King_Coco 2017-01-11 00:23:59 UTC #23

It's hard to say exactly where I see myself. I've been toying lately with poststructuralism and moving deeper into the "leftist" rabbit hole, but I don't really think my positions have really changed with regards to the policies that I support. If anything I'm just more familiar with more ideological systems than before.

hotsauce2910 2017-01-11 00:30:45 UTC #24

Uh... I don't actually know, though it's on my mind though

-#pointesscommentsFTW

Nakas 2017-01-11 00:39:21 UTC #25

I am a social democrat with some marxist undertones

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:46:06 UTC #26

"As of 2011, U.S. Muslims were somewhat split between those who said homosexuality should be accepted by society (39%) and those who said it should be discouraged (45%)"

I am going to go off on a limb and say those who wanted it to be 'discouraged' where probably Qu'ran followers who think it should be downright outlawed, like those 52% of British Muslims.

It's incredibly ironic that Underscore liked your post.

John 2017-01-11 00:50:25 UTC #27

I find it incredibly ironic that you are posting this rubbish, yet you support a President who's vice-President believes in gay conversion therapy and I bet wouldn't support gay marriage either.

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-11 00:50:59 UTC #28

Bigoted? Sure.

Nazism? No.

I mean, a lot of American conservatives aren't exactly enamoured with homosexuals. Come on, man.

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:51:29 UTC #29

'rubbish'

heck it's even from liberal sources, CNN and Pew Research Center. If you cannot trust that, what will you trust?

Pence is powerless. Unless Trump is killed, Pence can't do anything. Trump HIMSELF has said Same-Sex Marriage is here to STAY.

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:52:31 UTC #30

There is a difference between being against public indecency and wanting to ban/kill homosexuals.

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-11 00:53:31 UTC #31

That's a pretty massive conflation.

Not to mention a lot of US homophobes aren't merely concerned with "public indecency"; they're just homophobic.

John 2017-01-11 00:53:56 UTC #32

I'm not saying it's untrue, it most likely is true.

Pence isn't powerless. He has a direct line with the White House, and the influence that comes with. Not only that but with the appointing of a new Republican Supreme Court Member [and possibly another few more], many gay rights will be rolled back in each individual state, combined with the rights of transgendered people.

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:54:38 UTC #33

Many US homophobes are Nazi-like, yes.

Um, so if you ban homosexuality, what are you going to do with the homosexuals, how will you stop them from being homosexuals? Do what the Nazis did and kill them off. That's the law of the land in many Islamic states, wouldn't be surprised if people born and raised there, and their children, think that's a-okay.

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:56:57 UTC #34

That isn't going to happen, lol.

Trump is pro-LGBT. He won't let it happen.

Name specifically the LGBT rights that can be rolled back..Trump won't let Same-Sex Marriage be undone. As far as Trans rights, I don't think the Supreme Court can do anything.

Even then, it's him or Hillary that wants to demographically change the country from White, tolerant Liberal to Homophobic, Ultraconservative Hispanic Catholic.

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-11 00:57:19 UTC #35

Capital punishment is not the only available sentence for crimes.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the views of British Muslims. Many of them do have pretty abhorrent views; I merely take issue with the conflation that because they think it should be illegal, they are somehow in favour of killing gays.

Kyoko 2017-01-11 00:58:08 UTC #36

Look, being thrown in an Islamic prison for the rest of my life, I think is just as bad as being killed. I don't want these fucking people in my country. I'm not going to change my mind on this one.

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-11 00:59:16 UTC #37

So I take it you want any homophobic Christian with similar views kicked out too?

Kyoko 2017-01-11 01:00:34 UTC #38

Yes, I would like that.

John 2017-01-11 01:00:50 UTC #39

Well firstly, he hasn't released any policies on LGBT rights.

The Transgender Bathroom issue - Confirmed by Pence
The Supreme Court shortlist ONLY included Anti-LGBT people

I don't doubt that he is most likely to be on the more pro-side of the Republican party, but it doesn't stop all of the above to name but a few.

I_am_the_Senate 2017-01-11 01:00:52 UTC #40

At least you're consistent.