Interesting read on LA evacuees


Someone forwarded the following to me thru my email. Its an interesting point of view. IMO, the author went a little far with his pov in the second to last paragraph.

This came from a friend:
Here’s a story for you…

At the state line between TX and LA, there is a HUGE, brand new rest area. It’s NICE.

Okay, here’s the story. Last Friday, my dad, who works for TxDOT, answered a call for TxDOT employees to go help with the refugees at this rest stop.

So, after working ALL DAY Friday, he and three guys from his office left for the state line at I-20 and Waskom, TX. Working that evening was a state trooper, several sheriff’s office deputies, Red Cross workers, TxDOT employees, and other local volunteers. These buses from New Orleans start pulling in. They let the people off to potty, eat, and rest. As they get off the bus, they are greeted and shown to the restrooms–where they pee all over the walls, floors, mirrors, etc. They did not even flush the toilets.

Left the restrooms in a HORRIBLE mess. The local Burger King restaurant donated burgers and hot dogs and had people there cooking. Two black dudes walk over to see what’s being cooked and one says to the other, “Man, I don’t want none of that shit.” Other volunteers are handing out bottles of water. The people take them, drink two or three drinks from the bottles, and throw them on the ground. My dad and his coworkers spend their time picking up trash and taking it to the very large and OBVIOUSLY placed trash cans. (They ended up hauling off two HUGE truck loads of trash from these people). He said WASTEFUL wasn’t the word.

Other volunteers had brought in snack items, such as chips, crackers, gum, small candy, etc. There were ladies there making snack bags for the people and handing them out.

These nasty, nasty people would take the bags, dig out what they wanted and throw the remainder on the ground. BRAND NEW FOOD ITEMS! Daddy said one deputy got so mad he yelled at them to “STOP WASTING THESE GOOD FOLKS’ MONEY BY THROWING THE FOOD AWAY. IF YOU DON’T WANT IT, THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS RETURN IT TO THESE NICE LADIES!” He was hot! Daddy worked pretty much all night. He and my mom said the people were HORRIBLE. Nasty, filthy mouthed, ungrateful. TxDOT had to pretty much scour the Rest Area and restrooms after they left.

My dad went home and slept most of the day Saturday, got up sick and had to go back to bed. Remember, he’d been in the hospital not two weeks ago with chest pains (he’s okay now, but still!). The man went to help these NASTY people after working ALL WEEK!!!

So, after hearing this, I could really care less about a lot of them. Idiots and human debris. I am more resolved now to send MY donations to the officers and firefighters. Forget these IDIOTS! They are fools and it’s mean, but Texas does not need any more of those! GRRRRRR!!!

And to add one more thing… Why are all these fat blacks laying around on cots sleeping while white people are lining up by the thousands to SERVE THEM MEALS??? I am sorry but it’s starting to tick me off that we’re expected to serve these lazy assed “evacuees” indefinitely. Why the hellllloooo can’t they line up themselves and help unload all these trucks and cars full of FREE stuff? Okay, let them have a day or two of rest but then put those folks to work taking care of themselves. Why the hell should any of them want to get a job when they can lay around all day in free air conditioned stadiums where they don’t have to spend a dime and they have TV, entertainment and education and great food?

Houstonians are going nuts being nice to these people, free hamburgers, free admission to the Children’s Museum and Museum of Natural Science, etc. Show your LA license and everything is free. Like I said, a short time is definitely warranted after all they have been through but it’s my opinion that the worst thing we can do for them is to allow them to do nothing.


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At least all the evacuees I’ve met were pretty decent people. I have met a few fuckers, but alot of the locals around here aren’t much better anyway.


You would be surprised how many of these “LA” folks get sent to the ER that are staying at these church camps because they are psycho! At least 2 a day! I understand what they have been thru is horrible, but, that gives them no right to be threatening people and saying they are going to kill everyone. Some of them are very scary. One guy got his FEMA check and it was over $2,000 and he spent it all on alchohol. I heard him say that to the caseworker. Yes. there are some very gratful ones out there but not as many as there are ungrateful ones.


That makes me sick!!! I have been encouraging everyone I see to donate cans, water, whatever. But everyday I am hearing more and more of these stories and it is sickening!!! Maybe some of them did get what they deserve! I still think about the percentage of people that really are hurt…and those assholes are ruining it for everyone.

I’m sure you all read about the gucci purses being bought with the $2000 debit cards that were supposed to be used for clothing, food, etc. Well last week there were some being found up in Indiana…at a strip club!!! WTF!!!

It really makes you wonder if New Orleans isnt some sort of Soddam and Gahmorah!!!


I havent donated 1 dime to the Katrina Relief effort.
Like I said before. These people have been conditioned to wait for help from the Govt. They will not do anything to realley help themselves.
As soon as the levess are strong enought to hold back the water and they pump out the Ghettos. Send them back and tell them to rebuild there shacks!

New Orleans is a welfare City. It’s alot like Los Angeles, LongBeach Compton.

I am all for giving help and Aid to those that need it and will use it to improve there conditions. But When I heard that they sent a butt load of Refugees to las Vegas with our Tax dollars I said no fugging way will I be an enabler of the welfare system.


well, here is another Email that I recieved about the situation in LA… It pretty much reflects the same point of view that BlackwaterGT speaks of. It will make you think twice before feeling too sorry about a lot of the “victims” of the hurricane. I do feel for the decent , hard working folks who want to do for themselves but it makes you realize that there are more of the others than you think. There are people out there who are actually gratefull for the help that they are recieveing, but you dont really hear stories about them.

TIA Daily – September 2, 2005

By Robert Tracinski

It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure
out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can’t blame them,
because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is
going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if
you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials
is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send
transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send
engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city’s infrastructure.
For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the
heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work
and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being
taken to clean up and rebuild.

Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have
to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if
they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists–myself
included–did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind,
and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.

But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by
federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane
Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television
channel has gotten the story wrong.

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not
happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four
decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be
confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave
in an emergency–indeed; they were not behaving as they have behaved
in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they
have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In
fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion.
They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously
organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in
America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own
initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care
of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small
town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens
to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops,
directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the
spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a
description from a Washington Times story:

"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists,
knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets;
and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.
"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen
poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and

"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened
Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with
shoot-to-kill orders.

“'These troops are…under my orders to restore order in the streets,
she said. They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These
troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do
so if necessary and I expect they will.”

The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this
article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests,
riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a
rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling
at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for
an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs
to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing
the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes
people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super

Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further
destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help

My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a
sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox
News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She
studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is
located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert
Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in
America. “The projects,” as they were known, were infamous for
uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since,
mercifully, been demolished.)

What Sherri was getting from last night’s television coverage was a
whiff of the sense of life of “the projects.” Then the “crawl”–the
informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news
channels–gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the
residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane,
and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the
city’s public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an
additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated
that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the
city’s jails–so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a
significant overlap between these two populations–that is, a large
number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects,
and vice versa.

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when
the deluge hit–but they were trapped alongside large numbers of
people from two groups: criminals–and wards of the welfare state,
people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and
self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep–on
whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of

All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of
the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of
the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a
city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to
ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to
political supporters–not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in
case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact,
some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for
example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New
Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is
an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious
Canadian who blames the chaos on American “individualism.” But the
truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that
was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of
the welfare state. What we consider “normal” behavior in an emergency
is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the
responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond
to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to
overcome the difficulties they face. They don’t sit around and
complain that the government hasn’t taken care of them. They don’t use
the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about
saving their houses and property? They don’t, because they don’t own
anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their
businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried
about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But
living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

The welfare state–and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains
and encourages–is the man-made disaster that explains the moral
ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no
one is reporting.

Source: TIA Daily – September 2, 2005

My comments:

As I sit here and think, I beleive the article by Mr. Trancinski pretty well
explains my thoughts.

When one continues to help “those in need” without ever requiring something
in return from those helped, this is what happens. It is OK to steal from a
store, it is Ok to gripe because help is slow in coming. It is OK to blame
the President for things that should have been handled by the local

What kind of people are they whose police officers take part in looting?


I do so feel just like that. But I cant help to get teary eyed though…its sad. Its sad that in such a great world…such a great country…we have hell right in the midst.

Like I said earlier…Soddom and Gohmorroah. (I know I suck at spelling!!!)

But, no matter how upset I get over the selfish stupid fuggors that are taking advantage of this situation I cannot stop thinking about the children that are caught up in all of this. They don’t know anything about govt or policy…they just know they are hungry!


Re: RE: Interesting read on LA evacuees

[quote=CareBear3030]I do so feel just like that. But I cant help to get teary eyed though…its sad. Its sad that in such a great world…such a great country…we have hell right in the midst.

Like I said earlier…Soddom and Gohmorroah. (I know I suck at spelling!!!)

But, no matter how upset I get over the selfish stupid fuggors that are taking advantage of this situation I cannot stop thinking about the children that are caught up in all of this. They don’t know anything about govt or policy…they just know they are hungry![/quote]

no, they just know that there is a bunch of water all around them, and when it recedes, its gonna be stinky, and dirty, and their tummy hurts.