[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2679365, member: 15351”]Is the need of salvation an evil lie from religions?
Some religions like Christianity and Islam teach that people are condemned by God and that we have to work to gain salvation. God created us ill, and orders us to be well, on pain of tremendous eternal torture and eventual death. This teaching follows the one where we are told that God is unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways. This makes the notions of condemnation and the need for salvation obvious lies.
Gnostic Christianity does not use this type of carrot and stick motivation in its theology. We are Universalists and only see a heaven, no hell. We think God too good a creator to ever have to condemn anyone. Our God is a winner, not the loser God that Christianity has invented. All the Gods are myths created to help us reach our highest human potential and are only tools to open our inner eye. Our single eye as Jesus calls it.
How we can forgive ourselves is that as Universalists, we have tied righteousness to equality. The logic trail from there says that if God is to punish anyone, he would have to punish everyone as everyone contributes to what we all are.
For instance. If God were to punish Hitler, he would have to revue what made Hitler what he ended up being. God would follow his time line and see perhaps that his parents spanked him and God would know what we know today, that spanking creates resentment and a delinquent attitude. That beginning would see Hitler’s parents setting his mindset which eventually flowered into his tyrannical nature. So to be just, God would automatically have to punish Hitler’s parents. That same logic would apply to everyone who contributed or facilitated Hitler’s rise to infamy.
So for you and me to blame just ourselves for what we are would be quite unjust. This is not to say that we hold no responsibility for our actions, just not all of them.
I don’t see how you being blameless for your creation and actions, and thus it being unjust to be judged by your creator, makes even the slightest of difference for justifying a universalist take on the Christian religion. It just seems like your picking and choosing arbitrarily to believe in one lie over another. Is it not just as much a lie to peddle heaven to people as the aftermath of their life, and in doing so giving them a false hope for the future? It’s like telling someone that they’re going to win the lottery, so don’t worry about anything else in your life right now.
As for how your version of God is a “winner”, whereas the Christian God is a “loser”, that just seems like an inane childish take on the issue. God is a “winner” no-matter how brutally he treats you, because he’s in charge. Letting everyone into heaven doesn’t make you a winner any more than it makes the teacher who gives everyone participation rewards a winner.