[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]If Jesus was divine, then show the quote that says God can die.[/QUOTE]
"[I]The Word became flesh[/I] and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, [I]who came from the Father, [/I]full of grace and truth" (John 1:14). If he can become flesh, he can die.
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]If God cannot die and if Jesus did not stay dead then there was no real sacrifice. Right?[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Because Jesus [I]did[/I] suffer, all the gospels make this clear.
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]You also do not seem aware that the Jewish messiah was to live and rule. Not go away.[/QUOTE]
Isaiah does not seem to agree: “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed” (Isaiah 53:5).
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]For a God to conquer death by dying is rather a strange notion.[/QUOTE]
Of course it is. But then he could not rise (conquer death itself) without first dying.
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]If human death is conquered, why are all of us dying and none of us are showing that human dearth has been conquered?[/QUOTE]
Physical death will continue until the “end of the age”. Spiritual death however, has been conquered, The consequences of sin and evil have no hold on those who are willing to accept God’s grace.
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]They, like Gnostic Christian myths, were created to seek God with as Jesus said we should.[/QUOTE]
The story of both the OT and NT is about a God who wants to know [I]us[/I], not the reverse. Many other deities couldn’t care less whether we chose to accept them, clearly, Adonai [I]does[/I] wish to have a relationship. If I had to summarise the entire Bible in one sentence (not a particularly intelligent thing to do, but anyway), I would say that it is “the story of [I]the [/I]loving creator, who actively involves himself in humanity, that he might have a true, loving relationship with that creation”. That’s very simplistic and misses salvation etc, but the point is that God wants a relationship with us, so it’s not about us trying to seek some ultimate truth.
[QUOTE=“Greatest I am, post: 2682229, member: 15351”]Those Abrahamic myths were not meant to create the idol worshipers that Christianity and Islam have become.[/QUOTE]
I haven’t the foggiest clue what you mean by “idol worshippers”. Please point out to my blind eyes how I worship an idol. And don’t mention crucifixes, no-one worships a piece of wood. Don’t mistake symbolism for a deity.