[QUOTE=“owainp, post: 2682493, member: 4544”]Applying your logic= That’s rich coming from a gnostic.
When did I say that? On the contrary, he died for all.
Ummm… Ever had your hands and feet pegged to a piece of wood with large iron nails? I can think of few methods of execution more painful than this.
I haven’t the foggiest what you’re talking about.
Still haven’t a clue what you mean by this. He knew that when he created us, there was a chance that we might decide not to follow him.
Idol worship? Pray do tell.
The name? [U][I][B]THE [/B][/I][/U]Name? You mean YHWH? Created by man? How so? Biblically you have no evidence, even historically you can’t point to a time where one thought to himself, “I think I’ll name my God YHWH.” My question is, how do you [I]know[/I] the name was created by man?
And you have failed to show [I]how[/I] it is idol worship.[/QUOTE]
If Jesus died for all then there is no need for a hell, is there?
That is not the usual dogma as it says that only a few will take the narrow road to heaven while the vast majority will take the wide road to hell.
“Still haven’t a clue what you mean by this. He knew that when he created us, there was a chance that we might decide not to follow him.”
Indeed and he planed our fall before even creating the potential for sin.
1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
If you think otherwise, tell us why God put Satan and or the tasking serpent right beside Eve while knowing that she could not resist his powers of deception flowing through Satan.
You might wonder before replying, why the Jews, who have first dibs on any interpretation of their myths, saw Eden as our place of elevation and not of a fall. Note that the Original Sin concept was added on later by Christians in their zeal to vilify the serpent cults and women.
“My question is, how do you [I]know[/I] the name was created by man?”
Because all the Gods are man made. Have a look at the ancient thinking before Christianity became literalist idol worshipers.
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, “The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it.”
Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, “God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning.”
" And you have failed to show [I]how[/I] it is idol worship."
If you cannot prove your God to be real, and you cannot, then all you believe in is some kind of facsimile and that is idol worship. Even putting belief in your WORD is idolizing the words of men.