Oh boy, I have a lot of catching up to do. Okay first things first.
@Joshua_Heckathorn, Yeah the Prophet’s dealings with pagans were a lot worse than Jesus’s, however in the years to come, Christianity hooked up with the imperialistic Roman Empire, and it turned into a monster that I would argue was quite similar to Islam in it’s bloodthirstiness and systematic brutality.
In english history, I can think of about three times when it was a out and out showdown between pagans and Christians, which would be the wars and eventual defeat of King Penda, the conquest of the Great Heathen Army, and then later the various victories by Alfred the Great in pushing them back. They fought each other, but I’m confused as to what your point is with that. In that specific instance it was a two way street.
Ah but the Crusades thing, what do you mean only two nations? What about the Aragonese Crusade, the Northern Crusade, the Albigensian Crusade, etc.? And even when it wasn’t crusade, the missionaries converted the kings of neighboring countries, who then used their influence to crush those of their own subjects who would not join them.
The Armenian Genocide is tragic. I’m praising the Empire for it’s comparative virtue during the medieval era, but as it didn’t ever change and reform itself like Europe did, it fell behind.
But if a country has a very big majority of muslim citizens and they change the government to confirm with Sharia law, that’s their right. Israel doesn’t follow Mosaic law because they’ve gone through similar changes that European Christianity has. I’m proposing we do the same with Islam.
@Ricky, this candy store thing is getting stale. And comparatively well isn’t irrelevant for the time. Standards change over time (thankfully they have gotten better). Back then, they were arguably the gold standard compared to everyone around them in religious liberty. Today it’s not even close to our standard, but back then it was the best you got.
Islam also has the New Testament in it’s religion, it’s not the defining difference as they both contain the same book.
You know what I’ll give this to you. Christianity at it’s core and original understanding was definitely a lot less religiously violent. The violent aspect became a reality after the Roman Empire merged with it, and then when Charlemagne influenced it as well. The Arians, the Ethiopians and the Gnostics were not violent Christians in general. Perhaps the beef I have with the European Christians would be better pointed at the Roman Empire in it’s later reincarnation.
Because of inability, not because of lack of trying.
Iceland is a little barren rock in the middle of the Atlantic. With no trade, they were literally forced into it, though they did work out an uneasy compromise with their Christian counterparts to continue practicing their faith on the down low, which was quickly abolished after Catholicism took it’s hold.
The whole reason that they kept their unique language is because they were so isolated. Their entire country changed around them while they remained relatively untouched. Except for the conversion, of course.
The point is that they refused trade as an aggressive measure, not just because they didn’t like what they had to offer. And they ran into overpopulation because the life capacity of the area suddenly took a drop when they suddenly didn’t have the flow of resources they usually got through trade anymore.
But in practice, the last time a Christian was hanged for blasphemy in a Christian nation was in 1697. Like I said before, I’ll give it to you that Christianity doesn’t necessarily advocate the same amount of violence as the Quran does in scripture alone, but the movements it hooked itself up with in Europe certainly did turn it violent.
They don’t have to be. They just have to abide by the same rules as each other. Christianity doesn’t get to slay unbelievers like is commanded in Luke 19:27, and neither does Islam.
@Greatest_I_am Vigilante mindset isn’t something most governments operate under.
And no, the dhimmi tax wasn’t great, but it was comparatively progressive for it’s time.