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#61

You asked for examples. I’ve given you them. The first one is something Republicans will obviously be aiming to repeal if that is the line that they are taking.

Has the western extension of slavery in the Louisiana purchase given the Left political ammunition? In 1850, Congress passed a bill that allowed Southern slave owners to chase their slaves in abolitionist northern states…

Has the expansion in Vietnam war activities following Vietnam protests resulted in less left-wing influence or more, given that their goals have been ignored and then overriden? Lyndon’s response to the initial Washington mass protests in 1967 was to add an extra 200 000 men to Vietnam … and troop levels only came down as a result of Nixon for totally unrelated reasons. Shit, the response to Vietnam was to expand the war to Cambodia in 1970 and Laos in 1971 and bomb/napalm the shit out of both. Counterculture of 1960s was partly killed because of this and Nixon’s “Silent majority” … at that point the left became irrelevant until 1992 when Clinton came to power.

In France, have the far-left protests and strikes in 1968 resulted in a swing to the left, or a massive swing to the right? Pompidou privatised the shit out of the economy, restricted labour laws, allowed unemployment to rise and punished the student strikes by making France the first European country to demand tuition fees from students. The results of the subsequent election were devastating: 1968 was the year the Communists died in France as a political force, falling from being the opposition to just 6th place today … and that’s in a merger coalition with the Greens. The entire Left wing movement was cut and carved, not a SINGLE left-wing party survived 1968, and Mitterand had to reform his part to the new (current ruling) Socialist Party to win anything. Kicked out any radicals.

In Britain, has Thatcher’s brutal police response to miner strikes and increased austerity resulted in more influence of the left or less? Less worker protection, deregulated banks and a more conservative society. To be honest, the “real” left has never even recovered from Thatcher. Blair was just a temporary blip to the centre. Trade unions NEVER recovered to even half the influence they had in 1979. Britain is a good example of how hitting the left could, if lucky, kill it forever. 37 years and running. Unfortunately a new ‘left’ has been created in the form of ultraliberals, and that has to be defeated at some point as well by whatever means necessary. Hopefully peacefully like under Thatcher.

In Italy, has Natta’s “Italian Road to Socialism” and it’s support resulted in communism in Italy? No, it has killed the communist party and gave the right free reign. It’s what created Berlusconi, Italy’s longest PM by time in office. The Communists were never to recover as a result of 1987. Bearing in mind that Italy was the most communist nation (by support) in the West… Always in opposition between 1945-1992. Then died. Worker protections lost, Italy deindustrialised, taxes dramatically cut, trade unions removed from public life, church returned to public influence.

My point is that hitting the left by taking measures against things they care about DOES kill them from the opposition/influence, at least temporarily. That’s enough for me, since at the current moment the Western world is too polarised and society has gone too far left.


#62

At the time, yes.

Ignoring something does not mean the thing being ignored has no power. A king can ignore his people, but that doesn’t mean they are powerless.

We’re living in a time where the left is looking for things to campaign on in the form of microaggressions and the like. Removing LGBT rights would give them a truly important cause again. In the age of the Internet and mass media, these causes can gain much more traction than they could in the past. They act as a catalyst for the left.

And then we can all live in a right wing safe space. Glory to the party and remember to report anyone not reading state sanctioned material.

You don’t need to start punishing gay people to destroy the left. It gets to the point where they become so extreme they self destruct. We’re starting to see early signs of this now. The left has become so desperate for issues, and with increasing acts of violence occurring, they are losing traction. No removal of rights needed.

And again, in the age of the Internet, fringe ideologies can become more prominent because people can read what confirms their biases, further polarizing politics. This coupled with the upper and ruling class being primarily left leaning, it is much more difficult to diminish their influence.


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#64

You’re saying 2 2 4. You need to explain.


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#66

Brain*


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#68

My point is you can’t just say transexuality is justified because science. That is completely baseless.


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#71

Remind me to never vote Republican again.


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#73

You aren’t making sense anymore. Gravity cannot be “justified” and you can’t just say “because science” about anything.


#74

I actually never voted in my life, I’m not old enough to yet.


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#76

You were the first to stop debating the point, not me.


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#78

You don’t even care that you shifted away from the subject of this debate. I’m done.


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#80

You started making examples of examples of examples that made no sense just to criticize my logic.


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