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#102

it’s what makes male and female different? okay maybe technically we are talking about sexuality and not gender per se.


#103

Biological sex has almost nothing to do with gender. Sex means you have a certain DNA, a certain brain structure, and certain genitals. Gender means you like cars because you’re a guy etc.


#104

Well we’re just arguing about semantics at this point then.

I guess all this time I’ve been saying gender, I should have been saying sex. Because I am talking specifically about biological things.

Anyways, are we done now?


#105

I figure you know you cannot argue with science, and you cede that there are people born with brain structure of the opposite sex as brain scans have shown. That’s all I wanted, there’s really nothing else I am arguing.


#106

Well considering transgenders are almost opposites of transsexuals yeah. I don’t blame you for confusing them though. But transsexual would then mean someone who changed their biological sex.
The key point of this is this: you cannot be born trans anything because trans implies change.


#107

They don’t have to change their biological sex necessarily if they are born with brain structure of opposite gender, but yes they are what they are. People with these brain structures are not really fully male or female, because they lack certain things of opposite gender but they also lack the brain of the gender they are assigned. They are humans and deserve rights like anything else, and it also explains why they feel like the opposite gender, because they were quite literallty born with the opposite gender brain, that means it justifies them living a lifestyle of the opposite gender IMO. It would be like being trapped in another body. I guess they are not really transgender or trans anything, they are what they are.


#108

As like most of the time, you are talking bullshit. The socialist/communist far left extends for anything that goes at least ~60% off the economic left, not necessarily in the extreme (I myself stand around 70%), but it is absolutely everywhere in the scale of social conservative/liberal progressive. Hoxhaism is the most authoritarian branch of socialism, opposing feminism and transgender rights for ‘the well-being of the Party’, whereas libertarian socialism is the most progressive, being nearly anarchistic. Dylan is, at best, a social liberal centre-left, but considering his support for Shillary, he’s actually more on the right than you think.

As with your shitty point that taking away LGBT rights is going to weaken the left… LOL. You are more childish than I previously thought. The majority of the US population supports gay rights and gay marriage. You right-wing authoritarian zealots will only shift the support of those people to our side in this issue, therefore damaging yourselves.


#109

ignoring every example of a right-wing reactionary revolution in economic and social rights that results in a temporary death of the left gg. please do go on and tell me about how police brutality and killing, mass privatization, removal of particular worker protections and public services and the placement of regions into poverty has resulted in anything else than 18 years of Tory rule, if not 37 years of right-wing rule given that Blair was never really a recovery of the left?

oh and add turkey to my list and enjoy the dictatorship and a hostile attitude to atheists


#110

It’s not even remotely comparable. Even a percentage of republican voters support LGBT rights, it’s not a left-right issue no matter how much the media tries to portray it that way.

The case of Britain is an interesting anomaly. My guess is that since a large portion of the British population are incredibly politically apathetic, they are highly unmotivated to respond with political activism, therefore drawning support for left-wing movements and giving it to the right, which at the time enjoyed wide popular support due to Tatcher’s intervention in the Falklands War. Up to that moment, Tatcher was nowhere close to being elected.

The US nowdays, thanks to the loss of unions, workers’ rights and police brutality, is seeing a resurgence of the left. Bernie Sanders might not have gotten the nomination, but the phenomena that gave him the enourmous support he had will not go away considering the present state of things.

This is not new by the standards of muslim countries. If the US hadn’t been involved in taking out so many secular and left-wing leaders in Iran, Iraq and other countries, islamic fundamentalism would have nowhere near the support it has now. A great example of this is Mohammad Mossaddegh.


#111

So what?

So do I, but I couldn’t give a shit if they were removed to shut the left up. Regardless, the Republican voters are not in charge of Republican policy. Primary voters are.

If 50% of the electorate vote for Republicans and 50.1% of Republicans vote for Trump, it’s the 25.1% that decide the national policy. If that 25.1% happens to be the anti-LGBT, I don’t see your argument.

Social rights issues are inherently left vs. right

“resurgence” implies influence over the national focus. If Clinton moves back to the right after her election or if Trump wins, you’re as irrelevant as ever.

It’s not an anomaly.

The French left never recovered after 1968. That year was the death of communism in France.
The Italian left never recovered after 1987. That year was the death of socialism/communism in Italy.

In a way, the liberal left never recovered in the US after the failure of Vietnam War protests in the 60s. Nevertheless you could say that McGovern and Clinton recovered the American left, but one thing that died with the failure of Vietnam War protests is the counterculture movement. It became an expectation of American citizens to fit in with the mainstream.

Similarly, weakly, the Russian authoritarian left is becoming irrelevant year by year in favour of Putinism. Workers rights/minimum wage and weekly communists street rallies are basically no more. They’ve got zero influence. Putin has cracked down on dissent. The Russian youth are overwhelmingly right wing, a common feature of Eastern Europe in general as the youngest generation is the most conservative.


#112

A lot of these involve outright suppression of the left. You have to inhibit their ability to organize while targeting the root causes of their movements. Taking away LGBT rights does little to nothing to either if these. A more effective solution would be to crack down on universities and to a certain extent public schools. These are pretty much the root cause. Their also a place to organize, but so is the internet which is a bit more tricky to deal with.


#113

The fact that gay-marriage came handed down from the Supreme Court instead of making a march state by state through the Union does serve to radicalize people who were already against gay marriage, and while a majority do support gay marriage, it’s not an overwhelming majority (55% in favor according to Gallup). And it’s an issue that crosses lines- Latinos, whom usually vote Democrat, aren’t as a group pro gay-marriage, and they are the ones that got Proposition 8 passed in California which later had to be nullified by the Supreme Court. Blacks are also about 12% less in favor of gay marriage than whites.

I’m not quite sure what his point was, but at least in the context of American politics, Trump picking someone who opposes gay marriage as a running mate and republicans making this their platform is something that could work as outreach to conservative Latinos whom otherwise are shying away from Trump’s immigration rhetoric.


#114

Hmm, you do know muskets are guns right? Thus contradicting your point.

So let’s fuck up millions of people’s lives and families, just so you can feel like you’re sticking it to someone? That’s what’s fucking horrible about this country right now. People would rather watch the country burn then do anything that could be seen as a win for the other side even if it’s the right thing to do.

It actually does the opposite of what @Cameronism wants. It enrages more of the population to fight the GOP in defense of civil rights. For example, in Arkansas the whole anti-LGBT legislation that our Governor attempted made just the Young Democrats organization go from a few hundred students to thousands of students almost over night. Not just to be part of the organization, but to fund raise, start dozens of chapters across the state, and hold protests at the capital.

If the right was smart they’d not make civil rights an issue, they would make it appear that they care too. Especially on issues that they’re already losing ground tremendously on like LGBT equality, if they ensure those protections for LGBT Americans and weren’t so bigoted then it would take a lot of the power away from the left since much of them would be happy that they have equality and fair treatment so they’d see no more reason to be involved.


#115

talk to me when they manage to remove it in 2045

you know what i mean. your attitude is exactly what stops gun control of any kind. i prefer to have people on terrorist watchlists being able to buy guns in walmart than go and listen to your advice. that’s how polarised you’ve made the conversation by suggesting the most extreme far left proposal.

No … a legitimate strategy to silence the left. This has nothing to do with “sticking it to someone”

Nothing what I said is “watching the country burn” and it is a win for the right.


#116

this is how fucking everything works, ‘safe zones’, ‘micro-aggressions’, ‘reverse-rape’, and the thought that I have to be tall and alpha and then still settle for 300 pound hairy piles of garbage. even bernie bros and the general reddit population (liberal-leaning) are anti-feminist because of this. people agreeing with this dumb shit are only going to become less as you push more for it.


#117

There’s also what happened with transgendered bathrooms in NC.


#118

Why would they remove it and why 2045?

It really isn’t unless you also crack down on the political backlash and protests.


#119

The LGBT movement is partially a fad because sadly some people do it purely for attention and it takes away value from the people who really are homo.

There’s nothing wrong with porn. Youth should be allowed to use it if they want. It’s not the business of the government or their parents. If sex education improves, porn’s harm factor will decrease accordingly.

If I was a parent, I’d rather catch my kid touching themselves while watching porn than catch them having unprotected sex.


#120

Porn is very much the business of their parents.

How would you feel if you walked in your 12 year old watching rape porn?


#121

Privacy should be a basic human right.