Should women have the vote?


#221

[QUOTE=“Hedonologist, post: 199095, member: 3”]Perhaps mental capacity isn’t the best phrase. But it’s clear that female brains do not function in the same way as male brains.[/QUOTE]

They may not function in the same way, but that doesn’t mean women are less intelligent or have a lower mental capacity.


#222

[QUOTE=“frankie, post: 199096, member: 3177”]They may not function in the same way, but that doesn’t mean women are less intelligent or have a lower mental capacity.[/QUOTE]

This is addressed at you specifically but everyone reading the thread.

Clearly some 15 years old are more suited to voting than 18 year olds, but we all agree that a line must be drawn somewhere. Whether it’s 21, 18 or 16. We all agree that a line must be drawn somewhere that is imperfect. Sure we are excluding some mature 15 year olds and allowing some irrational immature 18 year olds to vote. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Likewise, there are probably some women more rational and mature, and suited to voting than men. But we should be drawing a line.


#223

[QUOTE=“Hedonologist, post: 199099, member: 3”]This is addressed at you specifically but everyone reading the thread.

Clearly some 15 years old are more suited to voting than 18 year olds, but we all agree that a line must be drawn somewhere. Whether it’s 21, 18 or 16. We all agree that a line must be drawn somewhere that is imperfect. Sure we are excluding some mature 15 year olds and allowing some irrational immature 18 year olds to vote. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Likewise, there are probably some women more rational and mature, and suited to voting than men. But we should be drawing a line.[/QUOTE]

One of the most reasonable things you’ve ever said, if you took the ‘probably’ out of the last line :slight_smile:


#224

[QUOTE=“frankie, post: 199032, member: 3177”]Even I think that’s stupid, and you know you’re just making ridiculous arguments now.[/QUOTE]

No, because if women are allowed to vote, why not kids?


#225

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199203, member: 3050”]No, because if women are allowed to vote, why not kids?[/QUOTE]
Because women aren’t children.


#226

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199215, member: 2790”]Because women aren’t children.[/QUOTE]

I never said they were, but shouldn’t the same principle apply?


#227

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199216, member: 3050”]I never said they were, but shouldn’t the same principle apply?[/QUOTE]
No. Children are under 18, hence they don’t get to vote.


#228

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199217, member: 2790”]No. Children are under 18, hence they don’t get to vote.[/QUOTE]

Children don’t vote because they are under 18.
Women don’t vote because they are women.


#229

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199218, member: 3050”]Children don’t vote because they are under 18.
Women don’t vote because they are women.[/QUOTE]
Women are over 18, they pay taxes, they contribute to society, and are of the same social equality as men. Hence, they should have the same voting rights as men. If women don’t get to vote, men don’t either.


#230

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199219, member: 2790”]Women are over 18[/QUOTE]
What does age have to do with anything.

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199219, member: 2790”]they pay taxes[/QUOTE]
Some people have negative taxes but still get to vote.

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199219, member: 2790”]they contribute to society[/QUOTE]
Children also contribute to society.

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199219, member: 2790”]the same social equality as men.[/QUOTE]
Women are far from being socially equal to men.


#231

Plus we would also discourage talented ladies from entering into politics and getting involved if we close the ballot box to them.


#232

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199203, member: 3050”]No, because if women are allowed to vote, why not kids?[/QUOTE]

There’s a difference between women and kids


#233

[QUOTE="Chrome, post: 199222, member: 3050"
Women are far from being socially equal to men.[/QUOTE]

How?


#234

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199222, member: 3050”]

Women are far from being socially equal to men.[/QUOTE]

How?


#235

[QUOTE=“frankie, post: 199280, member: 3177”]How?[/QUOTE]
The fact that women still feel the need to advocate for equality tells us that men and women are not socially equal.

[QUOTE=“frankie, post: 199274, member: 3177”]There’s a difference between women and kids[/QUOTE]
So because kids are different from women, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote?
So then because women are different from men, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


#236

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199347, member: 3050”]The fact that women still feel the need to advocate for equality tells us that men and women are not socially equal.[/QUOTE]
That’s because some people still claim they’re not. As soon as people will shut up about women being inferior, there won’t be any issues.


#237

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199369, member: 2790”]That’s because some people still claim they’re not. As soon as people will shut up about women being inferior, there won’t be any issues.[/QUOTE]

Just because people don’t talk about the issue, doesn’t mean the issue goes away.


#238

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199370, member: 3050”]Just because people don’t talk about the issue, doesn’t mean the issue goes away.[/QUOTE]
In the countries that women still don’t have voting rights in, no, because they need that first. In countries where they can vote, yes, as there is [I]really is no issue[/I], it’s just the ones claiming women shouldn’t have the right to vote that think there is.


#239

[QUOTE=“Alexandra the Great, post: 199371, member: 2790”]In the countries that women still don’t have voting rights in, no, because they need that first. In countries where they can vote, yes, as there is [I]really is no issue[/I], it’s just the ones claiming women shouldn’t have the right to vote that think there is.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps where you live there is a small gender gap; however, even in countries like the US where women can vote, there is still a fairly sized gender gap.


#240

[QUOTE=“Chrome, post: 199347, member: 3050”]The fact that women still feel the need to advocate for equality tells us that men and women are not socially equal.

So because kids are different from women, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote?
So then because women are different from men, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.[/QUOTE]

Then why are you saying that women shouldn’t have the vote? Surely that would produce greater inequality?

And women are more similar to men than to children. Children under 16 mostly don’t understand how the political system works and haven’t formed opinions yet which would influence who they vote for.